He and Teddy decided to work with her, and took her out on a training mission against Hydra squadrons. Wiccan would spend much of his time bouncing from team to team. Robert Reynolds, aka Sentry, descended into the room, prepared to tear the YA apart. Wiccan can augment his strength through magic. 1012). In Pistis Sophia, Yaldabaoth has already sunk from his high estate and resides in Chaos, where, with his forty-nine demons, he tortures wicked souls in boiling rivers of pitch, and with other punishments (pp. During their search, Wiccan and Speed openly referred to the Scarlet Witch as their mother and to one another as brothers. Billy and Teddy began to battle the Wrecking Crew, warning them against disgracing this sacred space. Unwillingly, Wiccan's spell to bring back Hulkling's mother has brought back the parents of multiple heroes, including Ms. America's. 09:51 Andrew Stets ft. Soncesvit - Gutsul. Sylvie revealed to them that she was not actually from Asgard, but that she woke up one morning with powers. Through magic, he is strong enough to clobber Loki. Plotinus specifically points to the Gnostic doctrine of Sophia and her emission of the Demiurge. After defeating Mr. Hyde, Patriot admitted that he had not inherited his grandfather's Super Soldier abilities and promptly quit the Young Avengers. In the Archontic, Sethian, and Ophite systems, which have many affinities with the doctrine of Valentinus, the making of the world is ascribed to a company of seven archons, whose names are given, but still more prominent is their chief, "Yaldabaoth" (also known as "Yaltabaoth" or "Ialdabaoth"). As the Demiurge, Wiccan has the power to shape reality to his will. Thus the real Hulkling (disguised as the Super-Skrull) was able to stay on Earth. Refutation of objections from the inequalities and injustices of human life (ch. During her marriage to the Vision, the Scarlet Witch used her reality-altering powers to create twin boys Willaim and . Not even remotely. on 01/09/22 Not even remotely correct. You then who are spiritual should worship neither the creation nor the Craftsman, but the Father of Truth. Wiccan appears as a playable character in Marvel Future Fight. Sam Wilson and his newly Inverted Avengers shrunk all the gathered heroes down using Pym particles extracted from the Wasp (presumably against her will) and trapped them all in one of Hank Pym's microscopic ant farms, thereby taking care of the "liability". At first, it was presumed that Billy was just an electrokinetic mutant with strong sorcery abilities. Coat of Arms refused to leave her team, but Enchantress graciously accepted. When Hulkling is hurt during the battle, Billy uses his powers to put the Sons into comas. Later, Billy and Teddy joined the rest of their team, and helped the Avengers save what was left of Asgard. As he writes in his commentary on John 4:21. One Gnostic mythos describes the declination of aspects of the divine into human form. The group travels to New York to discuss what they should do, but they are found by Ms. Altman, and defeated. Wiccan (Billy Kaplan) | Marvel Puzzle Quest Wiki | Fandom Timaeus describes the Demiurge as unreservedly benevolent, and so it desires a world as good as possible. Being raised in a normal home in New York with his loving mother, Rebecca Kaplan, father, Jeff Kaplan, and two brothers, Billy had the average problems for a gay teenager. Demiurge Prime Marvel Universe (Earth-616) Others Others Billy Kaplan Moridun Year 20XX destroyed by Moridun (Earth-16364) Categories Categories: Disambiguation Pages Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted. Christos Evangeliou has contended[52] that Plotinus' opponents might be better described as simply "Christian Gnostics", arguing that several of Plotinus' criticisms are as applicable to orthodox Christian doctrine as well. Wiccan can rewrite the rules of magic across all realities. The Cathars held that the creator of the world, Satanael, had usurped the name of God, but that he had subsequently been unmasked and told that he was not really God."[48]. Emil Cioran also wrote his Le mauvais dmiurge ("The Evil Demiurge"), published in 1969, influenced by Gnosticism and Schopenhauerian interpretation of Platonic ontology, as well as that of Plotinus. It is on this account that Moses says, at the creation of man alone that God said, "Let us make man," which expression shows an assumption of other beings to himself as assistants, in order that God, the governor of all things, might have all the blameless intentions and actions of man, when he does right attributed to him; and that his other assistants might bear the imputation of his contrary actions. Superhero Class. The team arrived at the Avenger's Tower and with the help of the newly reformed Vision, located additional assistance to rescue Hulkling. Iron Lad had used a system he found in the remains of the Vision which helped locate alternative members for the Avengers for the next generation. 257, 382). The etymology of the name Yaldabaoth has been subject to many speculative theories. Billy and Teddy had been helping out when they came across an Asgardian temple being desecrated and pillaged by the Wrecking Crew. Level 2: While Wiccan has Mystical Destiny, he will transform into the Demiurge if you have at least 8 AP in all colors. The members are Quentin Quire, Patriot, Lightspeed, Speedball and Sophie, Mindee and Esme Cuckoo. WICCAN | Mighty Avengers 07:49AM In the report of the system of Basilides,[23] we are told that our world was made by the angels who occupy the lowest heaven; but special mention is made of their chief, who is said to have been the God of the Jews, to have led that people out of the land of Egypt, and to have given them their law. Wanda vs Wiccan powers comparison question : r/Marvel - reddit Since that night, Billy's father never did. 9). The demiurge is also[29] described as having a fiery nature, applying the words of Moses to him: "the Lord our God is a burning and consuming fire". Wiccan is destined to become the cosmic entity Demiurge though, so I'd say he has "more potentional" but is still very much in-training. Several systems of Gnostic thought present the Demiurge as antagonistic to the will of the Supreme Being: his act of creation occurs in an unconscious semblance of the divine model, and thus is fundamentally flawed, or else is formed with the malevolent intention of entrapping aspects of the divine in materiality. Not to mention she proves that she can inhibit America's powers by dosing her with a counter serum. Turner, "Gnosticism and Platonism", in Wallis & Bregman. 07:17 Serge Udalin - Witch. The Young Avengers agreed that in order for reality to stabilize, Iron Lad must return to his own time. However, the act only attracted unwanted press. The work of Plotinus and other later Platonists in the 3rd century AD to further clarify the Demiurge is known as Neoplatonism. There the boys encountered Master Pandemonium who further strengthened their belief that they are the reincarnated souls of the Scarlet Witch's twin sons. Answer: Wiccan is a powerful magic user with a unique tie to Avengers history. Theodoret,[25] who here copies Irenaeus, turns this into the plural number "powers", and so Epiphanius of Salamis[26] represents Cerinthus as agreeing with Carpocrates in the doctrine that the world was made by angels. In the Apocryphon of John c.AD 120180, the demiurge arrogantly declares that he has made the world by himself: Now the archon ["ruler"] who is weak has three names. 45). Until 1974 etymologies deriving from the unattested Aramaic: , romanized: bhth supposedly meaning 'chaos' represented the majority view. A lot of comic books inspired WandaVision, including House Of M and the 1985 The Vision And The Scarlet Witch limited series (by writer Steve Englehart and artist Richard Howell.) Hence Demiurge never played any part in it's creation. Plotinus' form of Platonic idealism is to treat the Demiurge, nous, as the contemplative faculty (ergon) within man which orders the force (dynamis) into conscious reality. Attack on the Gnostic doctrine of the making of the universe by a fallen soul, and on their despising of the universe and the heavenly bodies (chs. But Yaldabaoth, the Demiurge, with the material world, will be cast into the lower depths. [28], Yaldabaoth is frequently called "the Lion-faced", leontoeides, and is said to have the body of a serpent. Under the name of Nebro (rebel), Yaldabaoth is called an angel in the apocryphal Gospel of Judas. The main character refers to the Demiurge as the entity who "fashioned and shaped" the material world. His origin make it possible that Wiccan is both a mage and mutant. All those statements are never verified when they were not outright contradicted or retconned. Kate had new costumes designed for the team, who now operated out of an old abandoned warehouse owned by her family. This tradition of creator God as nous (the manifestation of consciousness), can be validated in the works of pre-Plotinus philosophers such as Numenius, as well as a connection between Hebrew and Platonic cosmology (see also Philo).[11]. This is the one in Future State right? But until proven otherwise he isn't. 22022: "Short statement of the doctrine of the three hypostasis, the One, Intellect and Soul; there cannot be more or fewer than these three. John Kessler was Billy's main nemesis and after receiving a beating that left him sore and bloody, Billy went to his favorite place to calm down -The Avengers Mansion. Wiccan doesn't have sufficient control over his powers to fully utilize the Demiurge's powers. "For, in sum, a part of their doctrine comes from Plato; all the novelties through which they seek to establish a philosophy of their own have been picked up outside of the truth." Iron Lad had found Teddy Altman (Hulkling), Elijah Bradley (Patriot) and now Billy Kaplan (as "Asgardian") who all three agreed to help him, despite their lack of experience. For relatively simple spells, such as his shields, lightning, and conjuring, he doesn't chant the spell (on panel at least). He started out in the Young Avengers with the code name Asgardian, using only lightning powers. During the events of Dark Reign, Billy and the other Young Avengers encounter another group of superpowered teenagers running around using the name "Young Avengers". By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The performance might range from a nudge to a certain existential state or outcome, to modified every reality in existence. 9). She reassured him that "Everyone has some gift," and advised him that next time he encounter Kessler, not to back down. View full history. like very very gay The mountain represents the Devil, or his world, since the Devil was one part of the whole of matter, but the world is the total mountain of evil, a deserted dwelling place of beasts, to which all who lived before the law and all Gentiles render worship. This sudden outburst of powers worries the Avengers, who think that it may lead to Wiccan having a mental breakdown similar to that of the Scarlet Witch. That was in America (2017) which is what youre referring to. These six, in turn, create another twelve angels "with each one receiving a portion in the heavens". Billy Kaplan is a Young Avenger and later found out that he and Speed are the Scarlet Witch's formerly dead twin sons. When Billy leaves the team, Sunspot gifts him a NYC penthouse for he and Hulking to retire to. Then within this intellectual triad Iamblichus assigns the third rank to the Demiurge, identifying it with the perfect or Divine nous with the intellectual triad being promoted to a hebdomad (pure intellect). They go to the Uncanny Avengers for help, but they too fall under the influence of the parasite. In order to test if his feelings are genuine, the two agree to temporarily break up. Defends against Lucy in the Sky, a strong energy projector, His shield protected him from a giant Skrull with the powers of Giant Man enough so he doesn't die, His most recent self can tank the likes of the Wrecker with his crowbar. [28], The first, or material men, will return to the grossness of matter and finally be consumed by fire; the second, or animal men, together with the Demiurge, will enter a middle state, neither Pleroma nor hyle; the purely spiritual men will be completely freed from the influence of the Demiurge and together with the Saviour and Achamoth, his spouse, will enter the Pleroma divested of body (hyle) and soul (psych). Wiccan (Billy Kaplan) **** D3 Go! Forums Later, the Neoplatonist Iamblichus changed the role of the "One", effectively altering the role of the Demiurge as second cause or dyad, which was one of the reasons that Iamblichus and his teacher Porphyry came into conflict. The bad guy possessing Wiccan needed around TWENTY YEARS to destroy ONE universe at which point he was stated to be at full power and it did not go through time or affect another universe, as the storyline had people go back in time to prevent it and it worked. With a thought, he puts a group of bad guys in a coma. The devil resides in this lower world, of which he is the prince, the Demiurge in the heavens; his mother Sophia in the middle region, above the heavens and below the Pleroma.[45]. Sometime later, Billy is targeted by the Vridai, a race of shapeshifters expelled from their home during War of the Realms. To this Messiah, however, was actually united with Jesus the Saviour, Who redeemed men. In this one-shot about the final adventure of the Avengers, Billy Maximoff chose to be a villain, calling himself the Grim Reaper. You just said yourself the universe he destroyed was fixed by time travel, so not beyond time or reality or time travel would not affect it. Demiurge. It is eventually revealed by Agatha Harkness that Billy and Tommy were subconsciously created by Wanda through the use of Chaos Magic, and cannot exist outside of Westview. Like many other heroes, Wiccan and the Young Avengers were granted amnesty following the conclusion of Civil War. But it is only the name that can be said to be specially Valentinian; the personage intended by it corresponds more or less closely with the Yaldabaoth of the Ophites, the great Archon of Basilides, the Elohim of Justinus, etc. (ch. Hence the title of Plotinus' refutation: "Against Those That Affirm the Creator of the Kosmos and the Kosmos Itself to be Evil" (generally quoted as "Against the Gnostics"). Billy's issues escalated as he grew older and entered high school where his differences became the source of endless torment and violence. The Latin translation, confirmed by Hippolytus of Rome,[24] makes Irenaeus state that according to Cerinthus (who shows Ebionite influence), creation was made by a power quite separate from the Supreme God and ignorant of him. Demiurge (William "Billy" Kaplan, Wiccan) - Superhero Database Honestly Wiccan is mostly statements. hansfenton123 Wiccan was created by Allan Heinberg and Jim Cheung. ), c.360 BC. 'wisdom'), the Demiurge's mother and partial aspect of the divine Pleroma or "Fullness," desired to create something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent. The ordering principle is twofold; there is a principle known as the Demiurge, and there is the Soul of the All; the appellation "Zeus" is sometimes applied to the Demiurge and sometimes to the principle conducting the universe. It was other people that had a problem with him. My guyThat scan literally from said comic book run America:Made in the USA (2021) provided nothing of the sort to prove that the utopian parallel was recton at least not yet. Teddy assisted Billy by posing as him while he and Speed went on a search for the Scarlet Witch to learn more about their past. Loki tells them that they need his help in order to destroy the parasite, and they agree. Shards: The Shards are the fragments of Primordial beings and are slightly stronger than any Demiurge. [40], According to Marcion, the title God was given to the Demiurge, who was to be sharply distinguished from the higher Good God. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Quispel[who?] As such, he falls in with Blade's Strikeforce to track the shifters. As a Kree, Hulkling was to be enlisted in the Kree army, by force if necessary. Wiccan's primary team is the Young Avengers, so any given volume of Young Avengers will feature him heavily. The first and highest aspect of God is described by Plato as the One ( , 'To Hen'), the source, or the Monad. T. The user is able to perform/cast a rare variety of magic spells and feats that manipulates reality itself to various degrees. It appears that Plotinus attempted to clarify how the philosophers of the academy had not arrived at the same conclusions (such as dystheism or misotheism for the creator God as an answer to the problem of evil) as the targets of his criticism. They started off by helping out the community, such as saving people from a burning building. So destroying a universe is his best actual feat not his worst. It was in this moment that Osborn called in the big gun. Quispel, Gilles and Van Oort, Johannes (2008), p. 143. Whereas Plato's Demiurge is good wishing good on his creation, Gnosticism contends that the Demiurge is not only the originator of evil but is evil as well. So don't act like I'm the one lacking information here. It's also not in English like normal. His spellcasting is unique, however. Later on, he started using magic and could perform all kinds of spells. A partially powered Demiurge (aka the Semiurge) holds off Mother's attacks, Fully turns into the Demiurge through the power of love. Shocked and afraid at what he had done, Billy ran back to the Avengers Mansion to talk with the Scarlet Witch but she was nowhere to be found. Before the Vision could reveal the identity of the father, a battle erupted between Kree and Skrull forces over the fate of Hulkling. You can continue to delude yourself Wiccan is universal let alone multiversal. Among these heroes were the Young Avengers. [13] We dont know if shes telling the truth, so as of now its HAS NOT BEEN recton cause the story hasnt even given a chance to prove if shes telling the truth in the first place. The team continued to fight crime on the streets, including busting dealers of Mutant Growth Hormone, which granted superpowers to ordinary humans. Doctor Strange has also claimed that Wiccan has the potential to be the next Sorcerer Supreme. William "Billy" Kaplan, Wiccan. Iamblichus describes the One as a monad whose first principle or emanation is intellect (nous), while among "the many" that follow it there is a second, super-existent "One" that is the producer of intellect or soul (psyche). After looking into it, Sam Wilson found that someone with Avengers membership and passcodes had helped the Skull escape. The team confronted the Super-Skrull and freed Hulkling. She was playing with them when Doctor Strange met her in the tower. The team travels to Europe to find her, but instead find a doombot posing as her. Jeff Kaplan (father) Rebecca Kaplan (mother) two unnamed younger brothers Theodore Altman (fianc) Wiccan has a wide range of superhuman powers derived from an unconfirmed source. [28][43] In this most common form of Gnosticism the Demiurge had an inferior though not intrinsically evil function in the universe as the head of the animal, or psychic world. However, strange things begin to occur with the children, who rapidly age from infancy to school age through unknown means. He joined Ultron in attacking the Avengers. In one of the many dark possible futures shown to Immortus by The Time Keepers; William and Thomas had become tyrannical God-like superhumans who were seen launching a devastating assault on Eternity in an attempt to overthrow him. The word dmiurgos properly describes his relation to the material; he is the father of that which is animal like himself.[15]. Thats a cute post though. But the devil, as being a spirit of wickedness, is able to recognise the higher spiritual world, of which his maker the Demiurge, who is only animal, has no real knowledge. All matches made by Wiccan will clear their row or column, dealing damage and generating AP. While patterning himself after Thor in the guise of Asgardian, Billy limited himself entirely to flight and lightning based spells. Billy gave up his superhero career, being mostly grounded by his parents who urged him to register. In the Nag Hammadi text On the Origin of the World, the three sons of Yaldabaoth are listed as Yao, Eloai, and Astaphaios.[31]. The law of necessary procession and the eternity of the universe (ch.3). [27], He is Demiurge and maker of man, but as a ray of light from above enters the body of man and gives him a soul, Yaldabaoth is filled with envy; he tries to limit man's knowledge by forbidding him the fruit of knowledge in paradise. The Super-Skrull noted that Wiccan seemed to have inherited the Scarlet Witch's magical and reality-warping abilities while Tommy has those of her twin brother, Quicksilver. (Kick Duck Dancing) 16:52 GG - Petrivka 19:49 Daniel Christian ft. Kolly Dee - Slava Ukraine 23:19 Andrew StetS feat. William Kaplan | Comic Superpowers Wiki | Fandom . Wiccan and the other imprisoned anti-registration heroes were later freed by Hulkling who disguised himself as Hank Pym to infiltrate the N-Zone prison. You're like one of those Supes Prime One Million fanboys. For more information, please see our [10] In this, he claimed to reveal Plato's true meaning: a doctrine he learned from Platonic tradition that did not appear outside the academy or in Plato's text. Respect Wiccan (Marvel, 616) : r/respectthreads - reddit The true believer in Christ entered into God's kingdom, the unbeliever remained forever the slave of the Demiurge.[28]. She and Cassie also convinced Billy to change his alias from "Asgardian" to "Wiccan" in acknowledgment of his new powers (and due to "Asgardian" being exploitable by the media in relation to Billy's sexuality and relationship with Hulkling). The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, and concluded that only he existed, ignorant of the superior levels of reality. Demiurge | Marvel Database | Fandom Plotinus also elucidates the equation of matter with nothing or non-being in The Enneads[9] which more correctly is to express the concept of idealism or that there is not anything or anywhere outside of the "mind" or nous (c.f. The is no utopia parallel. Billy experiments with some names, adopting the name Demiurge, but later reverts back to Wiccan. Dice of the Skrull Kill Krew does the same and he is by all accounts not even particularly powerful. Lol @ "universal" demiurge wiccan. Tanks eye beams from Sentry, and comes out unscathed. The one also in Immortal Wonder Woman? Plato, as the speaker Timaeus, refers to the Demiurge frequently in the Socratic dialogue Timaeus (28a ff. There is nothing that suggests that he is universal. @demiurgekaplan: the entirety of multiversal demi urges feats come from statements about creating the utopia parallel. Wiccan and the others were eventually rescued by their teammates and continued avoiding registration. For he said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come. Reality Magic | Superpower Wiki | Fandom Plotinus, "Against the Gnostics". Billy Kaplan on Tumblr - #wiccan Outside, Magneto arrives, saying that he wants Billy help to locate his daughter. He did not do it and he will not do it, because then marvel would have to come up with actual laws for their magic and how does that apply to combat in the first place? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The Young Avengers were lured into a trap set by the Young Masters, who were waiting with Osborn's Dark Avengers to take down the YA. True Parents. While being attacked, Billy's powers manifested for the first time. Forcibly teleports Loki to the Young Avengers, Teleports a car in front of an asteroid so it crashes, Transports Hulkling's "mom" to the 616 from a completely different universe, Locates Bucky Barnes and teleports his teammates to him, Teleports people in close proximity to him. As the Demiurge, Billy is destined to "rewrite the laws of magic" in the universe, meaning that he is a being of power on a massive scale. They were interrupted by a troupe of Kree soldiers who revealed Hulkling to be half-Kree as well and the son of their greatest warrior, Captain Marvel. Both Jarvis and the Hulk tried to sway them from taking such measures, but they refused, and unwittingly unleashed Kluh - the Hulk's Hulk. Eaglemoss released a painted figurine of Wiccan. Also America: Made in the USA(2021). It's existence has been retconned hence he has no such feats. A second? At the consummation of all things, all light will return to the Pleroma. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas ["fool"], and the third is Samael ["blind god"]. Of note here is that while Plotinus' student Porphyry names Christianity specifically in Porphyry's own works, and Plotinus is to have been a known associate of the Christian Origen, none of Plotinus' works mention Christ or Christianitywhereas Plotinus specifically addresses his target in the Enneads as the Gnostics. Privacy Policy. Their intent was to kill the Skull to prevent the X-Men (under the leadership of an inverted Storm and Genesis, now the Apocalypse) from taking him. The Valentinian Heracleon[46] interpreted the devil as the principle of evil, that of hyle (matter). He has to say the action he wants to happen in order for the spell to be cast. However, when they go to Asgard, they find that Loki's father Laufey is there as well. All you do is scream the same thing over and over contradicting yourself. The wizard's power is so powerful it sent Adam through the multiverse and disrupted the omniverse, so this is another nice feat for the Unkindness." In the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy, the demiurge (/dmi.rd/) is an artisan-like figure responsible for fashioning and maintaining the physical universe. Thomas ended up as the son of the Shepard family while William ended up as the son of the Kaplan's family. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll Thus their understanding of the Demiurge is similarly flawed in comparison to Platos original intentions. Demiurge, under Mor-I-Dun's control, attacked the Avengers and his husband, King Hulk . It was originally a common noun meaning "craftsman" or "artisan", but gradually came to mean "producer", and eventually "creator". She returned to her own team, and swore revenge on the Young Avengers. Wiccan and Hulkling are thrown into a prison outside their dimension, but are rescued by Loki. Wiccan, Speed, and Hulkling team up with Xavin and the Runaways to defeat the Super-Skrulls that are sent to assassinate Hulkling. The battle was negotiated when the Super-Skrull disguised himself as Hulkling and agreed to spend time with each empire before deciding which to join. The Young Avengers managed to escape to Billy's household. Here, at the summit of this system, the Source and Demiurge (material realm) coexist via the process of henosis. WandaVision: 10 Things Only Comics Fans Know About Wiccan - ScreenRant The false team, dubbed Young Avengers Lite by Billy, states their intention to continue to fight crime. William Kaplan (Earth-616) | Marvel Database | Fandom He is a reality warper, according to Loki. I made The respect threads , and I'm telling you the unkindness is a problem. Demiurge. Gnosticism attributed falsehood or evil to the concept of the Demiurge or creator, though in some Gnostic traditions the creator is from a fallen, ignorant, or lesserrather than evilperspective, such as that of Valentinius. Billy and the Young Avengers are the first team to respond to invading Skrulls in New York. Wiccan quite literally became the cosmos from within Mother's dimension, able to flip through time and reality as if they were comic book panels.
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