Get into Govan. Went back to show someone the building, but it was gone. 124m Freshair Salon . Jocelyn Square. Clydebuilt Database - Shipping Times, Stuart Cameron. Brian McQuade, Reflection on Housing Tel: 0141 440 1999, Fax: 0141 440 1367 , Many of the latter were too poor, ignorant and disorganised to remedy the situation themselves, and so the earliest community planners or social agencies necessarily undertook the first initiatives for planning and providing for people. As for our childhood and growing up in Govan we would never change a thing, there was everything in Govan any child wanted and we never ever suffered from boredom after school, we were outside playing peever, rounders, climbing dykes, swimming at the pool and rolling our Easter eggs down the hill at Bellahouston Park. In 1136, when Glasgow Cathedral was formally consecrated, King David I (112453) gave to the See the lands of Partick and also of the church at Govan (on opposite sides of the River Clyde), which became a prebend of Glasgow. I spent 18 months there before being released on a three-year parole where I took a job in the local Cleansing Department as a midgy-man. My granny Flora McFadyen was one of the oldest and longest residents in the Wine Alley. It seemed a dangerous idea but worth the risk if they could dent a hole in a major heroin dealing operation. We left govan to go to Drumchapel. As for Billie Cameron, she now lives in Montreal, her sister Isa was a war bride and came to Canada in 1948 to be with her Canadian husband and lives north of Toronto in Collingwood. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. I spent a lot of time at my granny's while growing up I remember we used to get payed for watching the cars when there was a game on at Ibrox. I'm thinking I never whined at them again. Therefore, the purpose of this Reflection is to make a contribution to the discussions on community planning and have the thoughts of people who have lived through other In recent years it has seen major improvements with the building of Glasgow Science Centre and the Glasgow Arc, better known as the Squinty Bridge. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. My family lived at 100 Harmony Row, Govan until I was 10 (born 1953), I lived there with my father Guido Gonnella, my mom Susan, brother William and sisters Helen Marie and Susan also lived with us. I remember living in a single end tenement (1950's) at 77 Nethan Street and the excitement on a Saturday morning when the man delivered the coal in our bunker which was right next to our bed. Skater Girl. Providing a family base with a family room in Govan, with weekly meetings in Govan and Easterhouse Providing consistent, non-judgmental support to families and individuals, and home visits to families in crisis Situated south of the River Clyde and part of the former Burgh of Govan, it was colloquially referred to as 'Wine Alley' during the mid-to-late 20th century when a housing scheme with a rough reputation was sited there. I had never seen one before. :bbpd: I remember the Neptune Street bakery was always flooded and full of cats but people would still queue up outside it. I remember the baths and went there every Friday, I also remember playing in the street and when the coalman came my mum and I would follow him with a pram and pick up any coal that fell of the lorry. Business . Wine Alley feels very European and I love it! 9 Goodlad, and Meegan, 2005, p. 188, Community Power in Community Planning Within it and its roughly circular churchyard is one of the finest collections of Early Christian stones in the United Kingdom, known as the Govan Stones, dating from the c.9th to 11th centuries. Nu acum. With its bad name, many people from Moorepark could not get jobs while those that could often disguised their addresses and, if they a they moved away because of its bad reputation Gradually, the decrease in services, coupled with, a by now high turnover of tenancie let house, led to the accretion of demoralised families coming into the scheme and all the stories about Moorparks good-for-nothing population seemed to be justified. First, this fosters connectedness seen in social capital and enhanced trust in government and in fellow citizens. Get directions. Community organisation. We then moved to a cottage at 112 Golspie Street down the lane, I always remember walking home down the lane, at the bottom of the lane we had a very large wooden gate, which we had to open to get in. It was like growing up in a wasteland! approached in flavour to wine. When we moved to Nitshill in 1060, I realised how much I had loved Govan. Every month her and neighbours would make tablet, cakes, scones and stuff. who until March 2014 played at Tinto Park (Drumoyne) then moved to the adjacent New Tinto Park. In May 1979, Margaret Thatcher was elected Prime Minister and her ministry soon began its privatisation programme. The manager was a man called Jackie. The jumps I remember were at the swing park at Harhill across from the steamie and at Greenfield where we jumped the middens and shelter and going along the wall (single brick width). 'Wine Alley', Govan Pop: 10,875 (whole ward) Problems: Mainly drug-related crime. I remember that when he told me that he had studied at university and that what he was now doing was his job I laughed at his education and his job. When they checked the mileage they realise it was being used for much longer trips of up to 600 miles a time. images & design by The Poverty Alliance Glasgow Braendam Link 2005, Sitting here on our computers at the end of 2022, The Glasgow User Manual An Almanac and Peoples Guide To the city, Information obesity (Relating to activism), Positive Thinking and the Positive Thinking Industry, Triangulation ( Try things from a different angle), BRENDAN McLAUGHLIN lifes a Bowl o Cherries, ADAM McNAUGHTON JIM McLEAN The Glasgow I Used To Know, ALEXANDER RODGER (1784-1846) Sawney, Now The Kings Come, JOHN TAYLOR CALDWELL The Battle For The Green, RUTHERGLEN DRAMA GROUP Caterpillar Talking Blues, PHIL McPHEE Hutchie E- A Monument to Corruption, Stupidity and Bad Planning, JOHN McGARRIGLE Write nice thingslast night, PETER ARNOTT & PETER MULLAN Beechgrove Garden Festival, ROBERT LYNN Not a Life Story, Just a Leaf From It, R. D. LAING from Wisdom, Madness and Folly, ALEX CATHCART Nostalgically Speaking Imagination is Money. So, has Glasgow and other cities always been in the hands of comprehensive planners who take an overview of all the parties involved? He liked nothing better than tothrow empty drugs packets out of his window and watch a crowd of desperateaddicts scrambling for them. You can make a complaint by using the report this post link . Glasgow Braendam Link is a Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in Scotland, No. In the early medieval period, the site of the present Govan Old churchyard was established as a Christian centre for the Brittonic Kingdom of Alt Clut (Dumbarton Rock) and its successor realm, the Kingdom of Strathclyde. You have to take the responsibility for some of that.''. Creeaz un cont nou. My cousin disappeared, the policeman went into the steamie and came out with a bucket of soapy water and a cloth to wipe it off. My dad gave my a slap for not fighting them, god was only about five years old. Thus, the major failing of any community planning is its inability to understand this relationship between the community and authority in detail and in an objective manner. They were both always on a mission to land a. Above is a quote from a seasoned Timfrom the unfairly labelled Wine Alley (Moorpark) area, once of greater Govan, just off Broomloan Road. View listing information for 7285 Hedgerose Drive, Cumming, GA, 30028. Based on this, Govan's Cumbric language name has been reconstructed as *(G)uovan. Servicii comunitare. Was never out your streets up the fighting lol Peg & the Fleet pussies,Possil Border kicked your assesmany times. Used go there for coffee and listen to juke box. However, in 1989 the same area was one of the most crime-ridden and deprived in Scotland. I believe that the buiding was demolished due to a structural problem that would not be able to be easily remedied. Doublers; Rounders; Kick the Can; Ropes I could go on and on particularly with the little verses we once recited lodged in my brain still! I was born in 1952 and lived in Golspie St until I was 10 when we moved to Garthamlock. Helen Dunlop and I have kept in touch all these years, she is only one month younger than me and lived across the street, therefore we have known each other all of our lives. The two men, working for up to 18 hours at a time, had to be smuggled out before dawn each day. Best people you could meet. He also allowed naval officers in training to visit the shipyard to familiarise themselves with the new vessels. [16] In 1912, Glasgow annexed Govan after a series of annexation battles. Thus, when Renfrewshire was created out of a sheriffdom of Lanarkshire in the early fifteenth century, the lands associated with the hospital (Polmadie) were not technically in the newly created shire, as they were not part of the sheriffdom. My gran was Ella Campbell who lived in Greenfield Street during the 50s and 60 s. I went to St.Constantines Primary School. Value 3/4 . I went to Harmony Row school then Hills Trust school, then to Govan High school. I went to Hills Trust primary and can remember having to sit my 11 plus exam and passed by the skin of my teeth (lots of mental arithmetic). We used to prick our fingers to drop blood into the fish tank where the (goldfish-sized) piranhas were and watch them converge on the blood. Govan and Fisher, former NBA player and current head coach for the Los Angeles Sparks, got married on Saturday at Cielo Farms in Malibu, California. But then officers were based in a more forbidding Victorian building about a mile away in Orkney Street. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council "modernised" it and tried to reintroduce the original n. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to 125m Harley's ice cream parlour . 3.75/4 3.75 / 4 (0 reviews) Staff Knowledge & Friendliness 4/4. I was born in Neptune Street, Govan in 1947, my father was Paddy Kelly and my mother Annie, my elder brother was Dick and my younger brother Brian. [4] In 1864, Govan gained burgh status, and was the fifth-largest burgh in Scotland. I would say about 90% of them never stayed in the winey they probably stayed kintra st, briton st, brighton st or clynder st etc but never the winealley. It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick. Co. Ltd., Alexander Stephens & Sons, J & G Thomson, Harland & Wolff and more. Marconi Electronic Systems and its Marconi Marine unit were sold to British Aerospace in 1999 to form BAE Systems. The owner later came in with home-made tablet for all of us. Nobody like them in the World. Ah! The School that was situated at the end of Cowie Street was the "Wee Lamby" or Lambhill Junior Primary. 114m Nailsby Taylor . Teddy boys jumped on little bike and broke it. I was born in Govan in 1948 and lived with my grannie in Vicarfield Street, opposite the school. I was born in Govan in 1941. (was it Grant's????? Poor Man, he said to my Mother, "the way she's trying to kick me I think her hips are fine". One flat was chosen in Wine Alley and a second across the road in a collection of tower blocks called Iona Court. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. With five suspected drug dealers in the cells and 200,000 worth of heroin seized, it had been a very productive day for the police. I've looked at several sites like this, in search of a memory or a photo and never found a thing - yet it was a Govan institution. I was born Jan 6th 1951 and brought up in flat above Co-op in Helen Street at Govan Cross, I Went to Harmony Row and Hills Trust Primary schools before moving to Pollok when I was 10 .I have 4 brothers Dave, Bobby, Shuggie, all born in Govan ..and Alastair born in Pollok. The main point of the Presentation was that, in an area which had lost 80% of its population (between 1951 and 2001), the re-zoning of demolished housing areas for warehousing and offices meant that there was less chance of people coming back into the area to live, as houses were needed in these areas and not anonymous commercial barns and offices. I went to St Anthony's then St Gerard's and was there at the same time as Billy Connolly though he is a year older than me. "And so for the time being I have finished this series (4th book comming this year) what an amazing book I especially loved the mention of the wine alley in govan as that's where my mama is from! British Shipbuilders road to privatisation was not as swift, and the group was sold piece by piece throughout the course of the 1980s. NGR NS 55416 65081. Call now (425) 271-4501; Address. It was only a community concerted campaign, (which included a long rent strike) waged by the various groups of residents, that the Glasgow District Council agreed to re-house all of the remaining tenants. It goes on to say that although bad housing design, and the allowance of dilapidation has been part of the problem, still housing is not the whole answer. This present attitude towards housing has serious implications for the future. I married in Glasgow, Scotland in 1974 and emigrated to Canada that same year, I have lived in Canada ever since. Again, where were the democratic, caring authorities when the 1987-1990 Glasgow Housing Condition Survey found that in a third of the citys houses suffered from condensation, dampness and mould and did little about it? Although we were all poor, I knew that I could go to any door, ask for a piece, and get it. Historically it was part of the County of Lanark. [15], With Morris Pollok as its first Provost, the Burgh and its Commissioners ensured that during the next 48 years Govan became a well-equipped, modern town. JAMES D. YOUNG Culture and Socialism: Working-Class Glasgow, 1778-1978, The future of Technics and Civilisation Lewis Mumford, The intellectual life of the British Working Classes. @AlanJParks" By the early 80s, much of the place had acquired an air of dilapidation and neglect. A friend called Carol Slater. We had 4 Cinemas that we could go to and the swimming baths and all the dykes round the back to jump and all the different games we played outdoors until the street lights went on and Dad shouted out the window it was time to come up the stairs. I attended Harmony Row School and Hills Trust Primary. Their children's names were John, Michael, Christopher, Bridget and Edward. In 1855, an elaborately carved sandstone sarcophagus was found during digging in the churchyard. We used to listen to all the records being played from Munleys on a Saturday morning. These incomers earned the contempt and resentment of some disgruntled local inhabitants, who focused on problems of anti-social behaviour in the estate, which acquired the nickname "Wine Alley". A list of almost 3000 ships built at Govan has been collected in the "Clydebuilt Database". I stayed all over Govan, I was born in the Southern General in 1961 and was brought home to Neptune St then I stayed in Govan Rd, Broomloan Rd and Carmichael St. Great times. THURSO BERWICK (1919-1981) Hullo! On the 21/6/2005 the plans for the future of Govans Central area were publicly revealed showing that housing and concern for unemployment was high on its agenda. Young Young Winey (Govan) (G51) (Moorpark) 'Republican Wine Alley' . Govan is served by Govan Subway Station, Ibrox Subway Station and Cessnock Subway Station on the Glasgow subway system. I was born in the Southern General Hospital in 1958 and lived at 23 McGregor Street, Chookiehill [Teucharhill] as it was fondly called then. Scottish Skier February 15, 2020 at 7:51 PM. My mam would love to know. I went about with Harry Bitters, Nick Shearer and John McLeod in the mad days of the early 70s. (they lived up the pen at No. I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. Water was always roasting hot and bath was very deep used to spend hours in it; and who can forget the carbolic soap!!! Wine Alley by Colin Quigley. 1 Damer, 1989, (passim), Life in theWine Alley Classification Housing Estate (Modern) Alternative Name (s) Moorpark Housing Estate; 'wine Alley'. My sisters were Elaine & Brenda and my brother was George. 178 9 shares Like Most relevant Denise Mcdonald Many happy memories there in the late 80s and early 90s . The Catholic Church that was located in Stanley Street was I believe the largest Catholic Church in Glasgow and at one time had 5 resident Priests. Any profits went into the family home and we knew that we would get in return our Saturday matinee money and a sweety. [6] Govan is believed to have then been part of a kingdom ruled from Dumbarton Rock, known as Alt Clut, the rock on the Clyde. It is in this context that he placed the above paragraph at the very forefront of his book From Moorepark to Wine Alley, The rise and fall of a Glasgow housing scheme, and it is also for the same reasons that this section of the Braendam Link Report investigates housing (especially in Glasgow), its problems, and how they could be solved by community planning. February 15, 2020 at 4:10 PM @ Anonymous LMFAO ! Remember, Charlies sweet shop opposite us, where after playing football we were soaked in sweat, you got a glass of lemonade for threepence. Most of it has now been demolished to make way for an industrial estate. Their powerlessness in this matter soon became clear when Moorepark was deliberately targeted as a dumping ground for Glasgows homeless, those on low incomes, and people with few housing points who were enabled to jump the waiting list if they accepted a house in the scheme.
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